Comments on: Knowledge and Thinking http://lssacademy.com/2009/05/25/knowledge-and-thinking/ Lean Manufacturing, Six Sigma, Lean Six Sigma, and Kaizen Wed, 01 Feb 2012 21:21:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Curious Cat Management Improvement Blog » Management Improvement Carnival #65 http://lssacademy.com/2009/05/25/knowledge-and-thinking/comment-page-1/#comment-3355 Curious Cat Management Improvement Blog » Management Improvement Carnival #65 Mon, 01 Jun 2009 14:44:51 +0000 http://lssacademy.com/?p=1283#comment-3355 [...] Knowledge and Thinking by Ron Pereira - “I truly believe the more you learn the more you’ll be able to think. And the more you’re able to think the better you’ll be at solving problems.” [...] [...] Knowledge and Thinking by Ron Pereira – “I truly believe the more you learn the more you’ll be able to think. And the more you’re able to think the better you’ll be at solving problems.” [...]

]]> By: Observer http://lssacademy.com/2009/05/25/knowledge-and-thinking/comment-page-1/#comment-3332 Observer Wed, 27 May 2009 07:36:55 +0000 http://lssacademy.com/?p=1283#comment-3332 Every one is comfortable in acquiring some skill sets. Some are numerically endowed. Some others think graphically. Some are action oriented and not like paper work. So there is nothing like a single tool or tool set that is good for every body and every situation. The problem does not know which tool we are using. Nor does the customer care which tool we used. Some famous quotes "For a person with a hammer every problem appears to be a nail". Another quote from the Chinese communist party leader (when asked about their SEZ driven growth being capitalistic), "I do not care what is the colour of the Cat, as long as it can catch mice". He cared for employment generation for his people and not for capitalism or communism. Every one is comfortable in acquiring some skill sets. Some are numerically endowed. Some others think graphically. Some are action oriented and not like paper work. So there is nothing like a single tool or tool set that is good for every body and every situation. The problem does not know which tool we are using. Nor does the customer care which tool we used. Some famous quotes “For a person with a hammer every problem appears to be a nail”. Another quote from the Chinese communist party leader (when asked about their SEZ driven growth being capitalistic), “I do not care what is the colour of the Cat, as long as it can catch mice”. He cared for employment generation for his people and not for capitalism or communism.

]]> By: Ron Pereira http://lssacademy.com/2009/05/25/knowledge-and-thinking/comment-page-1/#comment-3330 Ron Pereira Wed, 27 May 2009 01:09:54 +0000 http://lssacademy.com/?p=1283#comment-3330 Thank you all for your amazing comments. As always I am humbled by your active participation. Wishing you all the very best! Thank you all for your amazing comments. As always I am humbled by your active participation. Wishing you all the very best!

]]> By: DJ Duarte http://lssacademy.com/2009/05/25/knowledge-and-thinking/comment-page-1/#comment-3329 DJ Duarte Tue, 26 May 2009 23:08:02 +0000 http://lssacademy.com/?p=1283#comment-3329 If I may be so bold as to share my view on this and other quality tools, I would just say that I have learned over the years to value collaborative improvement efforts. Both lean and six sigma as well as the other quality tools compliment each other in ways that are essential to getting people to improve the organization together. One is not more important than the other. They simply are designed to view the effort slightly different. As for the methodologies, yes they are different, but then again, every situation doesn't require the same approach or method. When I meet those guru's that slam one or the other, I listen closely for why they lean (no pun intended) towards the one. Usually its because they like a tool, details, etc., this then allows me the opportunity to frame the value of the other method into something they can understand. For example, all of them are about eliminating waste, yet they do this in very different ways. TOC focuses on bottlenecks which for lean translates into reducing inventory levels and for six sigma shares that their is huge variation in continuous flow. So, we can't change others unless we first change ourselves. This debate I'm sure is long from over, if in fact it will ever be over. The only piece to me that is important is that they all are valuable tools, different yes but valuable in the end, and that in certain situations can help provide the right clarity and purpose for improving your organization. Good luck and thanks for listening! If I may be so bold as to share my view on this and other quality tools, I would just say that I have learned over the years to value collaborative improvement efforts. Both lean and six sigma as well as the other quality tools compliment each other in ways that are essential to getting people to improve the organization together. One is not more important than the other. They simply are designed to view the effort slightly different. As for the methodologies, yes they are different, but then again, every situation doesn’t require the same approach or method.

When I meet those guru’s that slam one or the other, I listen closely for why they lean (no pun intended) towards the one. Usually its because they like a tool, details, etc., this then allows me the opportunity to frame the value of the other method into something they can understand. For example, all of them are about eliminating waste, yet they do this in very different ways. TOC focuses on bottlenecks which for lean translates into reducing inventory levels and for six sigma shares that their is huge variation in continuous flow.

So, we can’t change others unless we first change ourselves. This debate I’m sure is long from over, if in fact it will ever be over. The only piece to me that is important is that they all are valuable tools, different yes but valuable in the end, and that in certain situations can help provide the right clarity and purpose for improving your organization. Good luck and thanks for listening!

]]> By: Garth F http://lssacademy.com/2009/05/25/knowledge-and-thinking/comment-page-1/#comment-3328 Garth F Tue, 26 May 2009 20:19:12 +0000 http://lssacademy.com/?p=1283#comment-3328 Lean, Six Sigma, TOC, TQM et al in my opinion are all just footnotes to Demming. Get the 14 points right, and you're set. The various philosophies and tools that have come afterward are just that - tools to help achieve that same end goal. Use which ever tool suits a given situation. Lean, Six Sigma, TOC, TQM et al in my opinion are all just footnotes to Demming. Get the 14 points right, and you’re set. The various philosophies and tools that have come afterward are just that – tools to help achieve that same end goal. Use which ever tool suits a given situation.

]]> By: miket http://lssacademy.com/2009/05/25/knowledge-and-thinking/comment-page-1/#comment-3327 miket Tue, 26 May 2009 18:25:47 +0000 http://lssacademy.com/?p=1283#comment-3327 And all consultants should have cowboy hats. And all consultants should have cowboy hats.

]]> By: miket http://lssacademy.com/2009/05/25/knowledge-and-thinking/comment-page-1/#comment-3326 miket Tue, 26 May 2009 18:11:49 +0000 http://lssacademy.com/?p=1283#comment-3326 Yeah my comment was in fun, but im serious about my idea that since six sigma guys took the colored belts, lean guys should have colored suspenders. And of course the guys who are lean and six sigma... Yeah my comment was in fun, but im serious about my idea that since six sigma guys took the colored belts, lean guys should have colored suspenders. And of course the guys who are lean and six sigma…

]]> By: miket http://lssacademy.com/2009/05/25/knowledge-and-thinking/comment-page-1/#comment-3325 miket Tue, 26 May 2009 17:54:26 +0000 http://lssacademy.com/?p=1283#comment-3325 Currently I'm unemployed. Currently I’m unemployed.

]]> By: Adam Roberts http://lssacademy.com/2009/05/25/knowledge-and-thinking/comment-page-1/#comment-3324 Adam Roberts Tue, 26 May 2009 17:46:25 +0000 http://lssacademy.com/?p=1283#comment-3324 miket, your comment may be more on the fun side of things so I will just reply that my desk (sorry, I don't have a fancy office) is on the shop floor along with all our production engineers and line supervisors. If you don't mind me asking where is yours? Adam miket, your comment may be more on the fun side of things so I will just reply that my desk (sorry, I don’t have a fancy office) is on the shop floor along with all our production engineers and line supervisors. If you don’t mind me asking where is yours?

Adam

]]> By: miket http://lssacademy.com/2009/05/25/knowledge-and-thinking/comment-page-1/#comment-3323 miket Tue, 26 May 2009 17:21:35 +0000 http://lssacademy.com/?p=1283#comment-3323 How far away from the shop floor are these six sigma offices? How far away from the shop floor are these six sigma offices?

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