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		<title>By: Mordy</title>
		<link>http://lssacademy.com/2008/06/30/ban-the-stop-watch/comment-page-1/#comment-2466</link>
		<dc:creator>Mordy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 21:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you need a good way to perform time studies with videos look at  &quot;Lean Video StopWatch&quot;  at  www.productivityconcepts.net</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you need a good way to perform time studies with videos look at  &#8220;Lean Video StopWatch&#8221;  at  <a href="http://www.productivityconcepts.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.productivityconcepts.net</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mike Wroblewski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Wroblewski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Ron. You have a great blog with outstanding posts that we all can learn from my friend! I am traveling back home today to spend the holiday weekend with my family.  I hope you also have a great and safe 4th of July with those you love!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Ron. You have a great blog with outstanding posts that we all can learn from my friend! I am traveling back home today to spend the holiday weekend with my family.  I hope you also have a great and safe 4th of July with those you love!</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Pereira</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Pereira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, you IE&#039;s and your fetishes!  Hee hee.  Just kidding, Mike.  I appreciate your excellent comments.  Have a great 4th of July my friend!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, you IE&#8217;s and your fetishes!  Hee hee.  Just kidding, Mike.  I appreciate your excellent comments.  Have a great 4th of July my friend!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Wroblewski</title>
		<link>http://lssacademy.com/2008/06/30/ban-the-stop-watch/comment-page-1/#comment-2238</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Wroblewski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with your point that video recording as a tool has fantastic advantages over the traditional stopwatch time observation.  I encourge everyone to use videos more often.  It can be a better &quot;team&quot; tool over the dreaded &quot;sneaky&quot; IE with the fetish for stopwatches method.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your point that video recording as a tool has fantastic advantages over the traditional stopwatch time observation.  I encourge everyone to use videos more often.  It can be a better &#8220;team&#8221; tool over the dreaded &#8220;sneaky&#8221; IE with the fetish for stopwatches method.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Pereira</title>
		<link>http://lssacademy.com/2008/06/30/ban-the-stop-watch/comment-page-1/#comment-2237</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Pereira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 13:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great points, Mike.  I may have embellished my story line a bit, OK maybe a lot in some cases.  I&#039;m an engineer by training too and did my best to pick on myself as well.

With this said, I still stand by my position that put head to head the stop watch - even in the hands of experienced experts like yourself - will never be as effective as a video camera.  

We can do our best to explain why we are timing folks and ask why till the cows come home... but it&#039;s been my experience over the past 14 years that humans either tighten up or speed up (as another commenter mentioned) when the stop watch comes out.

I just saw the video camera in action in a recent kaizen event.  It worked wonders (52% throughput increase after 2 hours of timing and study)... the operators are still talking about it.  I dare say the same thing wouldn&#039;t have happened had we broken out the stop watches and clip boards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great points, Mike.  I may have embellished my story line a bit, OK maybe a lot in some cases.  I&#8217;m an engineer by training too and did my best to pick on myself as well.</p>
<p>With this said, I still stand by my position that put head to head the stop watch &#8211; even in the hands of experienced experts like yourself &#8211; will never be as effective as a video camera.  </p>
<p>We can do our best to explain why we are timing folks and ask why till the cows come home&#8230; but it&#8217;s been my experience over the past 14 years that humans either tighten up or speed up (as another commenter mentioned) when the stop watch comes out.</p>
<p>I just saw the video camera in action in a recent kaizen event.  It worked wonders (52% throughput increase after 2 hours of timing and study)&#8230; the operators are still talking about it.  I dare say the same thing wouldn&#8217;t have happened had we broken out the stop watches and clip boards.</p>
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		<title>By: mike wroblewski</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike wroblewski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 05:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ron,

As an experienced industrial engineer with a thick skin after literally thousands of time studies, I don&#039;t get offended easily by this type of IE humor.  I did laugh a bit when reading this post.  Despite another popular stereotype, most engineers do have a great sense of humor.  But Ron, come on now...fondling a stopwatch, yelling &quot;start&quot; and referring to the employee being observed as a victim?  Based on your storyline, it is easy to point out some opportunities for improved communication and training all around.  I have used the video camera approach which works well..good point.  However the stopwatch is also a great tool when used properly and used with the respect for people principle in mind.  Ask the 5 whys to the problem in your storyline, would a ban on stopwatches address the root cause of the problem?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ron,</p>
<p>As an experienced industrial engineer with a thick skin after literally thousands of time studies, I don&#8217;t get offended easily by this type of IE humor.  I did laugh a bit when reading this post.  Despite another popular stereotype, most engineers do have a great sense of humor.  But Ron, come on now&#8230;fondling a stopwatch, yelling &#8220;start&#8221; and referring to the employee being observed as a victim?  Based on your storyline, it is easy to point out some opportunities for improved communication and training all around.  I have used the video camera approach which works well..good point.  However the stopwatch is also a great tool when used properly and used with the respect for people principle in mind.  Ask the 5 whys to the problem in your storyline, would a ban on stopwatches address the root cause of the problem?</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Pereira</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Pereira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 01:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As always, thanks for all the excellent comments everyone.  Your comments and participation in the discussion make this blog so much better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As always, thanks for all the excellent comments everyone.  Your comments and participation in the discussion make this blog so much better.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Graban</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Graban</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 21:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think it&#039;s right to vilify the tool - stopwatches or video cameras. Any tool can be used in good ways or bad ways...

I&#039;ve used video analysis as a method in hospitals for three years. I&#039;m a bit believer in the method. But I think the reason it works is that I train people from the organization to video each other. They learn the types of waste and Lean concepts, then THEY do it. The process experts are watching and coming up with ideas, not some outside Lean expert who knows relatively little about a pharmacy. When you involve people and let them watch themselves on tape, it&#039;s very powerful. They see things that are surprising... &quot;I really do that??&quot; They come up with improvements... it&#039;s peer-to-peer, not &quot;expert to peon.&quot;

That said, some teams have chosen not to use video because getting patient and family waivers would be unwieldy. They had to scribble furious on their notebooks... clipboard, no stopwatch. It was a bit harder to involve the employee being observed without the video, but we still worked together to let them debrief on what had happened.

In the UK, the National Health Service uses video analysis in their Lean efforts, namely their &quot;Productive Ward&quot; initiative focused on nursing and patient care. You can see a video that shows some of that video taping at this link, although finding the exact video isn&#039;t easy... make sure to read their instructions for how to find Episode #1.

http://www.institute.nhs.uk/quality_and_value/productivity_series/productive_ward_%3a_video_documentaries.html

As always, great question for discussion Ron!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s right to vilify the tool &#8211; stopwatches or video cameras. Any tool can be used in good ways or bad ways&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve used video analysis as a method in hospitals for three years. I&#8217;m a bit believer in the method. But I think the reason it works is that I train people from the organization to video each other. They learn the types of waste and Lean concepts, then THEY do it. The process experts are watching and coming up with ideas, not some outside Lean expert who knows relatively little about a pharmacy. When you involve people and let them watch themselves on tape, it&#8217;s very powerful. They see things that are surprising&#8230; &#8220;I really do that??&#8221; They come up with improvements&#8230; it&#8217;s peer-to-peer, not &#8220;expert to peon.&#8221;</p>
<p>That said, some teams have chosen not to use video because getting patient and family waivers would be unwieldy. They had to scribble furious on their notebooks&#8230; clipboard, no stopwatch. It was a bit harder to involve the employee being observed without the video, but we still worked together to let them debrief on what had happened.</p>
<p>In the UK, the National Health Service uses video analysis in their Lean efforts, namely their &#8220;Productive Ward&#8221; initiative focused on nursing and patient care. You can see a video that shows some of that video taping at this link, although finding the exact video isn&#8217;t easy&#8230; make sure to read their instructions for how to find Episode #1.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.institute.nhs.uk/quality_and_value/productivity_series/productive_ward_%3a_video_documentaries.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.institute.nhs.uk/quality_and_value/productivity_series/productive_ward_%3a_video_documentaries.html</a></p>
<p>As always, great question for discussion Ron!!</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Buck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Buck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work in a hospital so a camera is a bit tough to pull off without upsetting patients (and HIPPA).  We have used it in some cases, but it is a bit tricky.

If you need to use a stopwatch, I agree it is so important to communicate first and get their buy-off.  I like to use humor as well and propose to wear a sash that says &quot;HALL MONITOR&quot; or tell them my name is Brian and not CLIPBOARD GUY.

Being at gemba with a stopwatch has opened the door for people to appraoch me with ideas on how to improve the process I am timing.

To avoid stopwatches, there have been great moments where people have timed themselves with tick sheets as well!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work in a hospital so a camera is a bit tough to pull off without upsetting patients (and HIPPA).  We have used it in some cases, but it is a bit tricky.</p>
<p>If you need to use a stopwatch, I agree it is so important to communicate first and get their buy-off.  I like to use humor as well and propose to wear a sash that says &#8220;HALL MONITOR&#8221; or tell them my name is Brian and not CLIPBOARD GUY.</p>
<p>Being at gemba with a stopwatch has opened the door for people to appraoch me with ideas on how to improve the process I am timing.</p>
<p>To avoid stopwatches, there have been great moments where people have timed themselves with tick sheets as well!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great timing on the note - we just &quot;stumbled&quot; across the value of the video last week. It reminded me of watching a sports event - you focus on one player or area - but you &quot;miss&quot; the game.  We found it much easier to see our problems (and there were many in this people intensive process) and also to see the probably root causes.  We also saw (unfortunately) that our line was not balanced, lots of idle time, people tending to batch, lack of discipline.  The good news is that by viewing the results with the team, they took the lead in implementing the corrective actions !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great timing on the note &#8211; we just &#8220;stumbled&#8221; across the value of the video last week. It reminded me of watching a sports event &#8211; you focus on one player or area &#8211; but you &#8220;miss&#8221; the game.  We found it much easier to see our problems (and there were many in this people intensive process) and also to see the probably root causes.  We also saw (unfortunately) that our line was not balanced, lots of idle time, people tending to batch, lack of discipline.  The good news is that by viewing the results with the team, they took the lead in implementing the corrective actions !</p>
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