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	<title>Comments on: Should we Push or Pull in Schools?</title>
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		<title>By: From push to pull, make them want to learn &#171; caffine tangent</title>
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		<dc:creator>From push to pull, make them want to learn &#171; caffine tangent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Oct 2010 10:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Rope Suppliers &#124; Lean Six Sigma Academy</title>
		<link>http://lssacademy.com/2008/01/24/should-we-push-or-pull-in-schools/comment-page-1/#comment-1237</link>
		<dc:creator>Rope Suppliers &#124; Lean Six Sigma Academy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 03:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ron Pereira</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Pereira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 23:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great question.  I may need to think on this a bit and will perhaps turn it into an article.  

Thanks for the comment and link.  I will check it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great question.  I may need to think on this a bit and will perhaps turn it into an article.  </p>
<p>Thanks for the comment and link.  I will check it out.</p>
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		<title>By: J Thatcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>J Thatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 22:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a question: 
If the student becomes the initiation point for &quot;pull&quot; learning, how does the instructor continue to &quot;push&quot; students beyond what they believed themselves capable?
(And yes, I&#039;m using &quot;push&quot; differently there :) )

From my own education, some of my favorite classes were those where the educator challenged me.

The idea of reducing student/teacher ratio is, of course, excellent if difficult to enact in the present socio-economic culture.

Take a look at some of the higher level institutions with low student/professor ratios - higher retention rates, higher graduation rates, more students going on to advanced degrees, etc.

On a much lighter note, good luck on the home schooling.
I quite enjoy this blog - http://www.madeditor.com/ written by the editor of Secular Homeschooling Magazine.

Yes, yes, secular; but it&#039;s extremely well written and I think you&#039;ll enjoy some of her insights/ramblings into the world of homeschooling (she&#039;s very vocally non-religious, not anti-).
Good luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a question:<br />
If the student becomes the initiation point for &#8220;pull&#8221; learning, how does the instructor continue to &#8220;push&#8221; students beyond what they believed themselves capable?<br />
(And yes, I&#8217;m using &#8220;push&#8221; differently there <img src='http://lssacademy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  )</p>
<p>From my own education, some of my favorite classes were those where the educator challenged me.</p>
<p>The idea of reducing student/teacher ratio is, of course, excellent if difficult to enact in the present socio-economic culture.</p>
<p>Take a look at some of the higher level institutions with low student/professor ratios &#8211; higher retention rates, higher graduation rates, more students going on to advanced degrees, etc.</p>
<p>On a much lighter note, good luck on the home schooling.<br />
I quite enjoy this blog &#8211; <a href="http://www.madeditor.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.madeditor.com/</a> written by the editor of Secular Homeschooling Magazine.</p>
<p>Yes, yes, secular; but it&#8217;s extremely well written and I think you&#8217;ll enjoy some of her insights/ramblings into the world of homeschooling (she&#8217;s very vocally non-religious, not anti-).<br />
Good luck.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Pereira</title>
		<link>http://lssacademy.com/2008/01/24/should-we-push-or-pull-in-schools/comment-page-1/#comment-1227</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Pereira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 05:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah come on Mark!  Is that all you got?  Kidding, my friend, kidding.  ;-)

@ Tom - Well I never said this would be easy.  :-)

And truth be told I could probably start another blog on this very topic (you know in all my spare time).

But to start with one of the main issues I see is the fact our teachers are paid like crap.  

In order to be able to get to this ideal situation I think we have to cut the student to teacher ratio way down.  That way we could almost cellularize the way our kids learned.  

But man it&#039;s a daunting task indeed.  But one worth attacking!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah come on Mark!  Is that all you got?  Kidding, my friend, kidding.  <img src='http://lssacademy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@ Tom &#8211; Well I never said this would be easy.  <img src='http://lssacademy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>And truth be told I could probably start another blog on this very topic (you know in all my spare time).</p>
<p>But to start with one of the main issues I see is the fact our teachers are paid like crap.  </p>
<p>In order to be able to get to this ideal situation I think we have to cut the student to teacher ratio way down.  That way we could almost cellularize the way our kids learned.  </p>
<p>But man it&#8217;s a daunting task indeed.  But one worth attacking!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Graban</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Graban</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 05:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron -- great points (not to sound like a yes man or anything...)

I was thinking more about &quot;pulling&quot; topics or subjects rather than the pace. If kids pulled &quot;what&quot; they wanted to learn, I&#039;d be afraid that we&#039;d only teach &quot;fun&quot; subjects instead of stuff that&#039;s necessary.

I absolutely agree about kids being able to learn at their own pace. I was very lucky to have some excellent public school programs that allowed me to learn at my own pace...  I guess I assume that sort of education is maybe more the exception than the rule??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron &#8212; great points (not to sound like a yes man or anything&#8230;)</p>
<p>I was thinking more about &#8220;pulling&#8221; topics or subjects rather than the pace. If kids pulled &#8220;what&#8221; they wanted to learn, I&#8217;d be afraid that we&#8217;d only teach &#8220;fun&#8221; subjects instead of stuff that&#8217;s necessary.</p>
<p>I absolutely agree about kids being able to learn at their own pace. I was very lucky to have some excellent public school programs that allowed me to learn at my own pace&#8230;  I guess I assume that sort of education is maybe more the exception than the rule??</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Peterson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Peterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 05:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a tough one.  

I tend to agree with you but am not sure how to change it.  

How could a public school allow 30 kids in a class to pull as you call it?

With only 1 teacher I can&#039;t see how it would work.</description>
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<p>I tend to agree with you but am not sure how to change it.  </p>
<p>How could a public school allow 30 kids in a class to pull as you call it?</p>
<p>With only 1 teacher I can&#8217;t see how it would work.</p>
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