Comments on: Transportation Muda http://lssacademy.com/2007/08/04/transportation-muda/ Lean Manufacturing, Six Sigma, Lean Six Sigma, and Kaizen Sat, 12 May 2012 15:25:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Mikkel Smith http://lssacademy.com/2007/08/04/transportation-muda/comment-page-1/#comment-6300 Mikkel Smith Tue, 22 Feb 2011 20:15:04 +0000 http://lssacademy.com/2007/08/04/transportation-muda/#comment-6300 Hi All, Yes it is a windmill blade. Here in Denmark (Europe) we often see this kind of waste as we have Siemens Wind Power, Vestas Wind Systems and LM Wind Power in a very small area. I find the discussion about airplane wing transportation quite interesting. I have heard that Boeing is doing all right when it comes to Lean. Airbus in Europe is very bad seen from a Lean perspective. Mark introduced the "required waste". I would like to introduce "political waste". Because of political decisions within the EU. The production of the new Airbus 380 is a nightmare seen from a Lean perspective. Parts are produced in nearly all European countries and the four major parts are produced in England, Spain and Germany - and the final assembly is in France. Please see an overview of the Airbus 380 Supply Chain here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus_A380 Enjoy reading about the Lean Supply Chain at Airbus :-) Hi All,

Yes it is a windmill blade. Here in Denmark (Europe) we often see this kind of waste as we have Siemens Wind Power, Vestas Wind Systems and LM Wind Power in a very small area.

I find the discussion about airplane wing transportation quite interesting. I have heard that Boeing is doing all right when it comes to Lean. Airbus in Europe is very bad seen from a Lean perspective. Mark introduced the “required waste”. I would like to introduce “political waste”. Because of political decisions within the EU.
The production of the new Airbus 380 is a nightmare seen from a Lean perspective.
Parts are produced in nearly all European countries and the four major parts are produced in England, Spain and Germany – and the final assembly is in France.
Please see an overview of the Airbus 380 Supply Chain here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus_A380

Enjoy reading about the Lean Supply Chain at Airbus :-)

]]> By: Anonymous http://lssacademy.com/2007/08/04/transportation-muda/comment-page-1/#comment-4910 Anonymous Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:29:23 +0000 http://lssacademy.com/2007/08/04/transportation-muda/#comment-4910 (Plane wing or windmill blade) Either way, let's not continue thinking on a small scale. In Mr. Pereira's comment on how we loose factory position due to outsourcing, even in interstate locations, and thus the requirement of transportation, let's not forgot a great response that most business have within their pillars, which is community involvements. By reducing factory positions in one place, they are creating similar or more positions at the "other" locations where are they are being created. Additionally, they are creating more positions for those involved in the transportation industry. This is, essentially, all added value to the customer, who may very well be the new factory or transportation employee. Business are here to reduce cost, which can mean reduction of people, but ultimately, business is business and in the end, they are here to benefit the people as customers and consumers because without us, the can cease to exist (including their bottom line). (Plane wing or windmill blade) Either way, let’s not continue thinking on a small scale. In Mr. Pereira’s comment on how we loose factory position due to outsourcing, even in interstate locations, and thus the requirement of transportation, let’s not forgot a great response that most business have within their pillars, which is community involvements. By reducing factory positions in one place, they are creating similar or more positions at the “other” locations where are they are being created. Additionally, they are creating more positions for those involved in the transportation industry. This is, essentially, all added value to the customer, who may very well be the new factory or transportation employee. Business are here to reduce cost, which can mean reduction of people, but ultimately, business is business and in the end, they are here to benefit the people as customers and consumers because without us, the can cease to exist (including their bottom line).

]]> By: Dennis Robinson http://lssacademy.com/2007/08/04/transportation-muda/comment-page-1/#comment-4735 Dennis Robinson Sat, 17 Jul 2010 19:10:17 +0000 http://lssacademy.com/2007/08/04/transportation-muda/#comment-4735 After looking at your wife's fine photography I am fairly sure that it's a wind mill blade. I am a heavy haul driver and have pulled those types of specialized trailers before. In Texas, most of those blades along with the other components are hauled from either Galveston, Houston or Beaumont to the "wind farm". After looking at your wife’s fine photography I am fairly sure that it’s a wind mill blade. I am a heavy haul driver and have pulled those types of specialized trailers before. In Texas, most of those blades along with the other components are hauled from either Galveston, Houston or Beaumont to the “wind farm”.

]]> By: Rick Ehrsam http://lssacademy.com/2007/08/04/transportation-muda/comment-page-1/#comment-2629 Rick Ehrsam Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:08:57 +0000 http://lssacademy.com/2007/08/04/transportation-muda/#comment-2629 As I was reading this thread, I was wondering, hey Boeing doesn't generally ship in airframe parts on trucks. It's usually train. Then I looked back at the picture. Dang, those "are" wind turbine blades. I've seen them many times on their way to a wind farm near the Columbia River off I-90 in Washington state. I had thought about the great idea of manufacturing these in Moses Lake, WA where there is an ample pool of labor, cheap electricity and inexpensive land for manufacturing plants. Produce the product close to its final installation point. Perhaps there is less muda in producing the blades close to the material source. Another thing, the blades are probably too long to ship by train. my two bits As I was reading this thread, I was wondering, hey Boeing doesn’t generally ship in airframe parts on trucks. It’s usually train. Then I looked back at the picture. Dang, those “are” wind turbine blades. I’ve seen them many times on their way to a wind farm near the Columbia River off I-90 in Washington state.

I had thought about the great idea of manufacturing these in Moses Lake, WA where there is an ample pool of labor, cheap electricity and inexpensive land for manufacturing plants. Produce the product close to its final installation point.

Perhaps there is less muda in producing the blades close to the material source. Another thing, the blades are probably too long to ship by train.

my two bits

]]> By: Bill Farren http://lssacademy.com/2007/08/04/transportation-muda/comment-page-1/#comment-2168 Bill Farren Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:22:21 +0000 http://lssacademy.com/2007/08/04/transportation-muda/#comment-2168 It's a windmill blade. Notice it has no control surfaces. LOL It would be absurd to build these at their final point of use since they are used all over, in static locations. They need to be shipped. Of course, building them efficiently and having as little transport as needed is important. It’s a windmill blade. Notice it has no control surfaces. LOL It would be absurd to build these at their final point of use since they are used all over, in static locations. They need to be shipped. Of course, building them efficiently and having as little transport as needed is important.

]]> By: Anonymous http://lssacademy.com/2007/08/04/transportation-muda/comment-page-1/#comment-1570 Anonymous Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:07:01 +0000 http://lssacademy.com/2007/08/04/transportation-muda/#comment-1570 Here's a thought about waste=something customer not asking for and willing to pay. I'd say it depends. There's a balance between global vs local optima. Cost to build the wing in Everett = 10 Transportation to assembly plant = 0 Total cost = 10 Cost to build the wing in XYZ = 7 Transportation to assembly plant = 2 Total cost = 9 What would the customer be willing to pay for the transportation in the latter case? If you ask the customer: It will cost 10x (x being some constant multiple), to build the wing in Everett, WA, or 7x to build the wing Here’s a thought about waste=something customer not asking for and willing to pay. I’d say it depends. There’s a balance between global vs local optima.

Cost to build the wing in Everett = 10
Transportation to assembly plant = 0
Total cost = 10

Cost to build the wing in XYZ = 7
Transportation to assembly plant = 2
Total cost = 9

What would the customer be willing to pay for the transportation in the latter case?

If you ask the customer: It will cost 10x (x being some constant multiple), to build the wing in Everett, WA, or 7x to build the wing

]]> By: Anonymous http://lssacademy.com/2007/08/04/transportation-muda/comment-page-1/#comment-1351 Anonymous Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:57:04 +0000 http://lssacademy.com/2007/08/04/transportation-muda/#comment-1351 It's a windmill blade, they are made in the Dakotas, and they are not going very far. It’s a windmill blade, they are made in the Dakotas, and they are not going very far.

]]> By: Rick http://lssacademy.com/2007/08/04/transportation-muda/comment-page-1/#comment-1054 Rick Thu, 04 Oct 2007 20:35:57 +0000 http://lssacademy.com/2007/08/04/transportation-muda/#comment-1054 Windmill blade it is. Saw many of them heading off to be installed in South Dakota and Minnesota on our 2400 mile round trip drive from Illinois to Montana. Windmill blade it is. Saw many of them heading off to be installed in South Dakota and Minnesota on our 2400 mile round trip drive from Illinois to Montana.

]]> By: Ron Pereira http://lssacademy.com/2007/08/04/transportation-muda/comment-page-1/#comment-972 Ron Pereira Sun, 19 Aug 2007 00:38:55 +0000 http://lssacademy.com/2007/08/04/transportation-muda/#comment-972 Hmmm... well I can't rule anything out but it did look line an airplane wing to me. What are your thoughts as to whether that would change the waste? Hmmm… well I can’t rule anything out but it did look line an airplane wing to me.

What are your thoughts as to whether that would change the waste?

]]> By: Matt http://lssacademy.com/2007/08/04/transportation-muda/comment-page-1/#comment-969 Matt Sat, 18 Aug 2007 22:14:24 +0000 http://lssacademy.com/2007/08/04/transportation-muda/#comment-969 Sorry for being late to the party. 1) Are you sure that that object is not a windmill blade? I've seen a number of those on that exact type of trailer going from the Gulf Coast (around Lake Jackson) headed out to west Texas, where hundreds are being installed. I think they're all made in northern Europe. 2) Does that change the waste? Sorry for being late to the party.

1) Are you sure that that object is not a windmill blade? I’ve seen a number of those on that exact type of trailer going from the Gulf Coast (around Lake Jackson) headed out to west Texas, where hundreds are being installed. I think they’re all made in northern Europe.

2) Does that change the waste?

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